tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post4501267762825315652..comments2024-03-26T22:26:32.946-07:00Comments on by Richard R Becker: Changing Television: The Jericho EffectRichhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11249654290264168416noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-28492616939478938492007-08-20T12:26:00.000-07:002007-08-20T12:26:00.000-07:00Lewis,So glad to see your comment. I'm rather limi...Lewis,<BR/><BR/>So glad to see your comment. I'm rather limited on television myself so I am glad you enjoyed the read (I try to weave it into communication as much as entertainment). <BR/><BR/>No, Jericho is not the first show saved by fans. In fact, I mentioned on Digg that Bionic Woman was right up there with major fan movements too (1975). Those fans are responsible for a whole series being Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11249654290264168416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-42625283478448479162007-08-20T12:16:00.000-07:002007-08-20T12:16:00.000-07:00Hey Myles, The operative words are most and some. ...Hey Myles, <BR/><BR/>The operative words are most and some. For the most part, Entertainment Weekly has one of the best critics out there, imo. The often go beyond voicing opinion and substantiating it on some level. Others less so; sometimes even be skewed by how they feel about an actor, actress, type of show, etc. <BR/><BR/>(Do you remember how some critics were caught giving good reviews to Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11249654290264168416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-72989110048930042502007-08-20T07:40:00.000-07:002007-08-20T07:40:00.000-07:00Rich,Again, let me just say how happy I am to have...Rich,<BR/><BR/>Again, let me just say how happy I am to have discovered your blog. I am not much of a TV fan beyond news and sports; however, your writing on the subject is a good read.<BR/><BR/>I don't think you meant to imply that Jericho is the first TV show to have been saved by fans. I seem to recall that a show back in the '80s was reinstated by fan evangelists and went on to become a hit. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-57518010864311673792007-08-20T06:51:00.000-07:002007-08-20T06:51:00.000-07:00While I agree with a lot of what you're saying, Ri...While I agree with a lot of what you're saying, Rich, I don't think I take such a negative approach to the role of the critic.<BR/><BR/>I might end up making a blog post about all of this, it's all fascinating, but on a basic level I think that critics should not become "more like" bloggers.<BR/><BR/>Even if, as you say, they start to take an approach of coming in without preconceptions, fan Myleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05935433249935469070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-79772916790853310832007-08-19T07:43:00.000-07:002007-08-19T07:43:00.000-07:00Thank you Lisa. And what you say is very true Lisa...Thank you Lisa. And what you say is very true Lisa.<BR/><BR/>Each has their place. I think where critics do disservice mistakes is when their allow their personal opinions to skew their objective opinions (which touches on what Kay is saying). For example, I cannot take any critic seriously when they write something that reveals ... I don't like science fiction, but I reviewed this movie anywayRichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11249654290264168416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-20734287441449634772007-08-19T07:15:00.000-07:002007-08-19T07:15:00.000-07:00As always, interesting post Rich. Those of us who ...As always, interesting post Rich. Those of us who have been blogging Jericho since day one also provide CBS ( and other the various other shows on the different nets) a sense of genealogy if you will, a history. This history provides the nets with more detailed info on how popular the show really was from day one, what was working and what was not.<BR/> Critics however, have a view from day one kystormshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865853394826135110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-46899263846387389822007-08-18T22:41:00.000-07:002007-08-18T22:41:00.000-07:00I guess you told them,Kay. Thank you.I guess you told them,Kay. Thank you.Sweet Teahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07672813719989448394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-18969102652589508062007-08-18T20:54:00.000-07:002007-08-18T20:54:00.000-07:00I'd love it if CBS would embrace 'the blog world'-...I'd love it if CBS would embrace 'the blog world'-why wouldn't they take advantage of free publicity and promotion? They aren't shy about telling the bloggers it's up to them to SAVE Jericho! <BR/><BR/>Heck, I didn't even know what a blog was until I went searching for more information about the 2005 Hallmark movie, "The Magic of Ordinary Days". (which CBS aired, and Skeet starred in, Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01730615977029739609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-7333808550826974142007-08-18T16:57:00.000-07:002007-08-18T16:57:00.000-07:00NBC has done this to some extent except they call ...NBC has done this to some extent except they call it social networking. I just like it and it's much different than CBS. I appreciate CBS giving us Fan Central but shouldn't the fans be involved in that? Maybe the networks better start thinking about using bloggers before we decide to raise our prices.<BR/>As for critics-I think I'd rather be the new Louella Parsons.Sweet Teahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07672813719989448394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-53310946055170852642007-08-18T16:07:00.000-07:002007-08-18T16:07:00.000-07:00Hey JS, I think it is inevitable. When you remove ...Hey JS, <BR/><BR/>I think it is inevitable. When you remove the buzzword "blog" and get done to it, some blogs are like mini online niche magazines. Several blogs are considered such in the tech industry already (TechCrunch for example).<BR/><BR/>There are still a lot of questions to be answered in developing how this would work, especially since there are different kinds of bloggers. You, for Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11249654290264168416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-82254422340448481142007-08-18T14:56:00.000-07:002007-08-18T14:56:00.000-07:00I have no idea how CBS does things but I'd think b...I have no idea how CBS does things but I'd think bloggers, contests, and using fan created items would only benefit them. I'm no expert but I see fans having some great ideas so, if Moonves wants money he should try a few of them.Sweet Teahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07672813719989448394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-39751384339753197392007-08-18T14:18:00.000-07:002007-08-18T14:18:00.000-07:00JS,I can say that, speaking for myself, I would li...JS,<BR/><BR/>I can say that, speaking for myself, I would like to think they'd consider it at SOME point. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than television appearances or press tours, and yet could have a distinct advantage.<BR/><BR/>And if CBS was smart enough to send movie-theatre capable episodes of Jericho to Masschusetts fans, maybe they would be willing to allow bloggers like ourselves some Myleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05935433249935469070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-59800404709142321332007-08-18T13:56:00.000-07:002007-08-18T13:56:00.000-07:00Myles, Rich,Do you think it has ever crossed CBS' ...Myles, Rich,<BR/>Do you think it has ever crossed CBS' mind that they could do what Myles said? Ask us if we'd like to talk about certain shows or form a type of partnership. For example, if they'd set me up with an interview with Skeet I might forget all about football next Fri. night pre-empting Jericho. <BR/>No, I guess I wouldn't.Sweet Teahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07672813719989448394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-60288531356332463582007-08-18T13:21:00.000-07:002007-08-18T13:21:00.000-07:00Rich,What I find most interesting about that Holly...Rich,<BR/><BR/>What I find most interesting about that Hollywood Reporter article is that while it is talking about the danger of bloggers, it appears that Jericho bloggers are not the target, per se. Rather, it seems that other fans have taken Jericho's example and jumped in without, well, thinking things through.<BR/><BR/>And I think this is a normal response, to be honest, and I think it's an Myleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05935433249935469070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-9732664384286760042007-08-18T13:15:00.000-07:002007-08-18T13:15:00.000-07:00I think fear is what had some critics not wanting ...I think fear is what had some critics not wanting to be contacted by fans. What they need to realize is that fans drive their columms. So while they don't want to tailor what they write to conform to what someone wants to hear, they do want to cover what people want to read about. If critics don't hear viewers they will make themselves obsolete. I think with populist reviews becoming more Debbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12994305057961862749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-20323190789011674652007-08-18T12:40:00.000-07:002007-08-18T12:40:00.000-07:00Hey JS, It's an interesting question with an easy ...Hey JS, <BR/><BR/>It's an interesting question with an easy solution. I think bloggers are always as asset because the fans want more than what the critics sometimes deliver. <BR/><BR/>Even better, such a move seems like it could end the sometimes painful power struggle between critics and producers, thus forcing critics to stand on their arguments more and just their names and pubishers. (Some Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11249654290264168416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10282351.post-16035028326697639852007-08-18T12:29:00.000-07:002007-08-18T12:29:00.000-07:00Great article. Thanks. Yes, the Jericho Effect. I ...Great article. Thanks. <BR/>Yes, the Jericho Effect. I see that more and more often. It's not always used in conjunction with TV either. <BR/>Having read most all of your articles on varied subjects I feel safe saying that CBS and other networks would be smart to embrace these bloggers. We can make them look good or bad. It's not about power(not to me) because I blog about what I choose. Imagine,Sweet Teahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07672813719989448394noreply@blogger.com